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Kev1999
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris20 wrote:
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Looking again at how committee approached this and listening to Seaman's interview again on my DVR, I'll tell you something, if we didn't win the CAA, we may not have gotten an invite. That would have been something.....

Anyway, time to focus on Colgate.


According to lax power guru, our RPI would have been 5 at worst if we
lost to Drexel.......you think they'd leave out 5th team in RPI? I don't. Maybe a road game, but we'd get in. If we would have been good enough for a top tier quality win, then we were good enough for at large.

But who knows....


Your probably right as I guess they wouldn't leave out a top 10 RPI team - but the way Seaman said going undefeated was impressive, but then focused his comments so strongly on our SOS, who knows. They seem to apply different criteria to each team as they see fit, totally unpredictable.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the most parity I have ever seen in lacrosse. Only the top 2 seeds drew cupcakes; every other seed can be beaten in the first round. Imagine the 3 seed getting Syracuse? I have no complaints whatsoever. Just win, baby.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no problem with who we play specifically.....but the inconsistency of the process and the handful of sphincters on laxpower do get under my skin....I can't help it.
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Dickie Dunn
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris20, good job pointing out the ESPNU anchor's willingness to grill Tony Seaman on the inconsistent application of the criteria and talking himself in circles.

If SOS and QW were important enough to keep UMass down at No. 6, they should have been important enough to get Penn State in over Princeton.

These are the things that fuel the conspiracy theories, right or wrong.

Signed, "LaxPower RPI guru" Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly.....I don't know why I waste my time....but just once I want one of those Hopkins or UVA guys to RECOGNIZE the hypocrisy of the selection process and the fallacy of selective use of RPI and whatever other metrics are out there. Just recognize it, admit there are gross inconsistencies (which lead directly to mafia conspiracy theory).

But they won't. They just say win on the field....which I understand perfectly well, but it misses the point completely.

Thanks for all your calculations....makes it a lot of fun seeing things unfold....
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playing away from Garber would not have hurt the UMies. From the number of penalties I have seen called against them they enjoy a ZERO home field advantage! The zebras seem to be afflicted with the "Lax Mafia" disease also.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was disappointing that no one on the selection show mentioned that UMass is ranked #1 in any poll, let alone all three.
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Chizzle
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know why Denver got in instead of Fairfield?
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was stated on the selection show that Denver had a good SOS which aided them. I could be mistaken, though.
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sldrums
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a quick search but I may have missed if this was mentioned...Isn't Saturday graduation? The campus is going to be crazy that day. If you are going get up there early!
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Chizzle
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I figured.... Fairfield had a better record and also beat them. Doesn't make sense.

Fairfield lost in their conference final against Loyola....

They need to make the national tourney bigger, too many good teams.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How big would you make it? There are only 61 D-1 teams total.
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Kieron
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sldrums wrote:
I did a quick search but I may have missed if this was mentioned...Isn't Saturday graduation? The campus is going to be crazy that day. If you are going get up there early!


Friday is graduation day for undergraduates and the Graduate School. Stockbridge is on Saturday, so potentially campus could be very quiet indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kieron wrote:
sldrums wrote:
I did a quick search but I may have missed if this was mentioned...Isn't Saturday graduation? The campus is going to be crazy that day. If you are going get up there early!


Friday is graduation day for undergraduates and the Graduate School. Stockbridge is on Saturday, so potentially campus could be very quiet indeed.


Well then hopefully people stay up for the game.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked at the official page and a number of the "Senior Recognition Ceremonies" (whatever they are, we didn't have them in the UK) are on Saturday so that could be good for attendance but could cause parking problems.
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