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[xlgman]

In the 3 games I've been to this year, I've sat behind the bench. DK does not call plays. He reminds players where to go and what to do.

We do not run any set plays except out of timeouts.

[Minutemaniac74]

some of you need to write "there are no set plays in a DDM offense" on a chalkboard 500 times. Maybe then it will sink in that THERE ARE NO SET PLAYS IN THE DDM OFFENSE.

Basic principle of this offense, from wikipedia (and yes, I'm citing wikipedia haha):

"The offense uses no set plays, and instead relies on the speed and decision making of its players, primarily the point guard. "I feel we're teaching kids how to play basketball instead of how to run plays" says Walberg of the offense. Coaches that rely upon the offense have said that they do most of their coaching work in practices rather than games"

[xlgman]

[bmc24]

Dude i was not just asking about offense. I understand the DDM concept, but even in the DDM it can begin with a weave, dribble hand-off w or w/o high screen etc.... I was talking about the complete game to include defense and trying get a feel for coach's leadership and philosophy.
thanks for the lesson on how to use wikipedia. I think i might go coach cyo now

[Dandabombe]

For Vance being such an acclaimed "X's and O's" expert, with this offense being his baby and coaches all around the country using forms of his offense, why is it that we have the worst out of bounds plays of any team at any level of basketball... Usually a team looks to throw the ball in from under the basket to half court as a 4th option, after options 1-3 are covered, but our goal seems to be to throw the ball there every time. I don't know how many other people have noticed this, but I go to every home game and have for years now and this one of the two things that frustrates me most about this team (the other being that nobody passes when we have numbers on a fast break, with gurley being guilty of this EVERY time, but thats a whole other story...)

So hopefully I'm not the only one who has noticed this and thanks for letting me vent.
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[DK20]

Dandabombe, I completely agree. I noticed this last year as well. An inbounds should be an opportunity to freely run people without the ball and get a good look at the hoop. When you watch some of the top teams play they almost always are able to either get the ball somewhere under the basket or get a good look for 3. Both years under Kellogg we have just thrown it 30 feet from the basket, which is not only dangerous but it makes us reset our whole offense. If this pass is stolen, which it has been a couple times, it leads to an uncontested fastbreak.

[rayers]

For anyone who watched St. Mary's destroy Richmond or Washington beat Marquette it was a first hand chance to see why DDM is so limited. Strong post play is impossible to stop and can set up so much more than a drive and kick. When the play gets to the level of the tourney the DDM sucks unless you have NBA caliber guards. I wish DK would see the error of his ways...

[shovelhd]

I didn't think that Richmond or Marquette were playing the DDM. If your point was that we should be playing a more traditional post offense, who on our squad is a big, strong frontcourt player that can finish in the post consistently? Sean Carter can't, neither can Bailey. Vinson has a chance, but he has to get bigger and stronger. So instead, we blame the system.

[xlgman]

Not sure if it'll hold throughout the first round but on the first day of play, the 3 ball was a huge factor. The winning teams all shot as well or better from 3 than the losers (except for Richmond who got eaten by St. Mary's big man). The difference was substantial, too. +/-42% by the winners vs. +/-32% for the losers. This is no small sample either - over 650 attempts total with the losers taking a lot more and making a lot less (sound familiar?)

Rayer's is right that you need a post presence in the dance. But you also need 3PT shooting. We have neither and that's why our players are on the beach in FL.

[chapter 11]

any thoughts on changing the title of this thread? This conversation has taken various positions and a less objectionable title seems appropriate. He's our coach and while anyone can question his ways, it seems a bit harsh.

[xlgman]

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I second the motion. Although the misspelling of the name has become somewhat of a legend in the chat room.....

[Merlin Samuels]

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Talkin' Vince Wahlberg. Maybe he'll be offered the St. John's or Seton Hall job.

[uz2b-len]

Why would anyone offer him a head coaching job? Seriously. Maybe an assistant.
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[Swampy]

The way Steele, Kelsey and "Bino" Ranson have been yapping at Chris Mack during their tourney games I'm surprised the X fans aren't hollering for their heads! According to some people around here assistant coaches should just sit on the bench and shut the f*** up!
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[PTrainXL]

Damn you Vince, I mean Vance.