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meff
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UConn is a horrible choice unless they decide to actually you know, fund their hockey program.

RPI makes sense, they have tradition they fund their program and they actually have a real rink.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEM wrote:
I'd personally lobby for UConn (whether they'd return the favor in football/basketball is questionable, but maybe they'd at least not actively block us if/when we become a worthy candidate). It'd be a fitting rivalry in any sport, hockey included.


I am in agreement here as long as the do support their program on par with middle of the pack Hockey East teams.

I don't feel like we have a "true" rivalry with any HE team. The students get up for BC and BU. The historical series are so one sided there. There's history with Vermont but the students don't care as much. In general, I look at UML as a little brother school despite that not being the case on the rink. UNH has Maine and vice versa.

UConn is a team that our students would get up for and who we'd have consitently competitive games with if they invest in the program.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UMass is 23-8-2 all time against UConn. Merrimack is 21-1 all time against them. UMass-Lowell is 17-5-1. Vermont is 15-1-1. Maine, Providence, UNH and Northeastern are a combined 15-0-1. BU and BC have never played them. That means UConn is all time 15-91-5 against Hockey East teams. Also of note, Alabama-Huntsville is 8-2 all time against UConn, and they're quitting altogether. If that doesn't tell you how much UConn sucks at hockey, go to their rink once. You will quickly be able to determine how little they care about the sport.

Looking on the bright side of this, UConn to Hockey East would be creating a perennial cellar dweller for UMass to finish ahead of every single year.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ It's also a lot harder to make off with laptops on ice skates.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think RPI is the best choice realistically right now. But depending on the level of commitment they could give I think Holy Cross would be better in the longrun. I think that if they could work something out to play at the DCU Center while they upgrade their own facilities it could work. I dont think there are many schools that have that kind of facility that close to campus thet can take advantage of.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see, the DCU center already is a crappy place to watch a hockey game, now put what 2,000 fans there for a game. Yeah that will work. Rolling Eyes

The only reason Holy Cross didn't get into the ECAC and Qpac did instead was that Holy Cross was not willing to spend the money on a womens team. What makes you think they actually will put the investments needed to be in Hockey East if they can't even commit to ECAC?

RPI is the most logical fit, there is a reason they have been invited two times before.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bring Quinnipiac over. I am sure they'd love to be in Hockey East and they have a growing program.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scuttlebutt out in Twitterland says Illinois is pondering DI hockey. Looks like the B1G Ten Hockey Conference may help grow college hockey.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPI is most like Merrimack, a small school, but committed to hockey. Quinnipiac is smaller still - not as well recognized as a college.

UCONN - why would we help UCONN? Let them suck dry ice.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Quinny is larger than RPI (far larger than Merrimack) and growing fast.

The stats:
Quinnipiac- 9K including 1,800 grad students
RPI- 7K including 2,000 grad students
Merrimack- 2K total (no grad students)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's crazy how fast Quinny is growing. Back when my sister was there, 1993 or so when she started, it was still only Quinnipiac College and was a tiny little liberal arts school. I remember going to a basketball game, it was in their tiny high school like gym. They were DIII at the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjmc85 wrote:

Looking on the bright side of this, UConn to Hockey East would be creating a perennial cellar dweller for UMass to finish ahead of every single year.


Uconn doesn't give scholarships to hockey players. That's why they can't compete. You must take that into consideration when doing such analysis.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been some rumblings that UConn might start giving some scholarships to hockey.

If they can figure out the title 9 issues around that more power to them. That being said in the last few years they did vote DOWN a proposal for Atlantic Hockey teams to be allowed to grant the full amount of scholarships.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory wrote:

Uconn doesn't give scholarships to hockey players. That's why they can't compete. You must take that into consideration when doing such analysis.


You are sort of proving my point. They can give scholarships in AHA (I believe up to 12). They choose not to. They don't care about hockey. They aren't a good fit for Hockey East.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?98349-UConn-Hires-Consulting-Firm

UConn hired a consulting firm to evaluate their hockey program.
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