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Malves21 · Freshman Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 57 Location: Boston

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Old Cage · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:52 am Post subject:

Interesting comments below the story.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/01/temple-on-verge-of-big-east-invite/
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69MG · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: Temple

If this happens, this will have significant implications for the MAC and the A-10. At this point with all of the rumors and potential moves being reported we just have to chill and see how things shake out. I can't expend any more energy on worrying about it. I just wish I had more confidence in our administration to be pro-active and find the best match for us. Wake me up when basketball starts.

Jackman · Senior Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1973

Supposedly, they will be voting on this Sunday. I have a hard time believing it's that simple. Temple would be crazy to pay a $2.5 million exit fee to the MAC plus whatever huge entry fee the Big East wants, only to find out next week that they need a new football affiliation because all the Big East teams left for the Big 12 and ACC. First there's going to need to be a commitment from the remaining Big East members in the form of a much larger exit fee. Maybe what's happening here is the Big East Catholics have already committed to admitting Temple provided the remaining football schools vote in the larger exit fee. I'd be surprised if Temple was enough incentive for them to do that just yet. My suspicion is that this story was leaked by the basketball side and they're displaying their usual blindness to reality. We'll see.

If Temple did leave, the immediate problem for us is that the MAC can tear up our contract and replace it with an agreement that lasts as few as 2 years. Either Temple or UMass leaving triggers that clause for the other member. Then we become an independent. The reason the MAC would do that is if they can't find another team they'd want as a 14th member. They were not happy with the 13 member setup. Obviously, Temple leaving would also be a big blow to the A10. I'll be surprised if it happens by Monday though.

Berkman · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject:

App. St is looking to move up.

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Old Cage · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject:

Leaving the MAC without ever playing a game, or after two years (as Jackman wrote), now that would be strange, although after last night, I guess there is nothing that is not on the table.
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photoman · Senior Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Posts: 919 Location: Attleboro

If you use last night as some point of reference than they don't even belong in the Patriot League.

Jackman · Senior Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1973

Monday has officially come and gone, and reportedly no vote was ever taken on Temple. I don't think anything is going to happen there until the SEC lays down the 14th domino and the ACC and/or Big 12 decide how to react to it. There's no reason for anyone but USF to commit to the Big East right now.

KahunaK · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:29 am Post subject:

The BE is a disaster. Even if they add teams, there will be many who will want to leave if the ACC, Big 12, SEC ask. There is no stability there. Back in the 80's Paterno wanted an all east football conference but the BE basketball powers nixed that idea. Now Penn State is in a great conference and the Eastern schools are scrambling once again. The BE spent too much time keeping schools out of their conference rather than building an all sports conference that would be the envy of the rest of the country. The only hope for the BE football schools is to break away and start from scratch. But it may be too late for that now that Syracuse and Pitt are gone.

Quinn · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject:

mdogt12 · Junior Joined: 03 Jan 2011 Posts: 404 Location: maine

TCU now rumored to be leaving Big East for Big 12

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/7066994/sources-tcu-horned-frogs-meeting-discuss-big-12-invite

Quinn · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject:

Updates:

* Temple will likely be invited by Monday.

* Rationale is again, that the Big East needs 2 more all-sports members to retain FBS status. UCF makes sense with USF in, Temple due to proximity to other BE schools (all-sports) and basketball success.

* Boise St., Air Force, Navy are still the top football-only schools on the wishlist.

* Navy will onyl join if exit fees are nearly doubled.

* BE schools want 6 schools added before they agree to exit fee hike.

* Army is not interested. 0%.

* SMU/Houston are in mix.

* Goal is 12 with current 6 +
2 = UCF, Temple for all sports
3 = Navy, Air Force, Boise St.
1 = either Houston or SMU for all-sports

* If Boise St. passes, BOTH Texas schools in to get to 12 (18 all sports)

* Air Force likely in if Navy in, might be in without Navy.

* If somehow Air Force and Navy passed, Big East would expand to 10.

* If one passes, there is an outside shot that ECU would be accepted for football-only (already applied) to get to 12.

* If UL/WVU leave for Big 12, and BE at 12, not a problem as they'd be at 10.

* If UL/WVU leave and conference was at 10, would likely remain at 8, with expected drop of bCS AQ

* CUSA exit fees are $7 million plus forfeiture of TV revenue, meaning a total of about $10 million with no income for 2012.

* Big East TV contracts pay under $7 million per year for football schools, but expected to go up with new TV contract (which will still be high in comparison to current contract, but less than the 1.5 billion ESPN offered already).

* UMass upgraded a few years too late. If they were FBS and positioned well with success, Big East would look at them at least.

* Gotta feel for ECU if passed over again.
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Steve81 · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject:

Quinn what have you heard about Army. The is one poster on the ncaabs, who says that if both Navy and Air Force join the Big East, there is a change Army would consider the MAC football-only. It would be the best Temple replacement.
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Quinn · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: