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daveyboy · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

Imus' humor was the kind of humor that may be acceptable in a locker room or in a frat house of mixed ethnicities where the humor was globally self deprecating.I think the issue with the program was everyone became desensitized to his sophmoric humor,if we accept the premise that no ethnic,religious,racial,political,or economic group was spared ridicule including himself. It took a clear cut target such as a university woman's basketball team who had enjoyed meteoric success to form the perfect storm of outrage.

Imus is a flawed person who most of all did himself in.I loved the show.Every day it brought humor and sane political commentary from both sides that was easy to understand.He still crossed the line and that trumps his good work,philanthropy,and influence.

MullinsManiac · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject:

Doc Moonlight · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:

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What better way for Stern to show people that he's still King of All Media -- and to tell CBS and traditional media to go fuck themselves -- than by offering Imus a spot at Sirius. It gets both of them huge publicity and brings even more subscribers to Sirius (which, in turn, puts more money in Stern's pockets).[/quote]

But if Imus were to accept such an offer he would have to admit to being Stern's bitch. It would make for great radio, but I don't see it happening.
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philosopher · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject:

Back on topic. I dislike Imus and his comments. But to cast his being canned as a 1st amendment issues is lame. He wasn't canned until the sponsors started withdrawing support. Had they not backed off Imus, he'd still be on the air.

Quinn · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:

I loooove this poll. I mean, why make it a simple "yes" or "no" answer when you can be sure to add your own opinion in the answer options. Rolling Eyes

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Minutemanfan · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:57 am Post subject:

ktabz16 · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject:

this is the way it works in a free economy... if you really don't like it, you should move to north korea or cuba. but the almighty dollar is and always had been #1 in america.

philosopher · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject:

So what you are saying, ktabz, is that morality, ethics, and aesthetics are trumped by the dollar, and that is the way it should be? That sounds to me like it has all the depth of a dandruff flake. I would like to think that the ideas behind the founding of this country are not so cheap nor so easily bought and sold. I don't plan on moving to Cuba or N. Korea, nor do I accept that as the only alternative to accepting your analysis. Not trying to pick a fight, merely to state an alternative position.

Minutemanfan · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject:

ktabz16 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:20 am Post subject:

capus is trying to have it both ways, but at the end of the day, it's about the cash and only about the cash, i'm not saying it's right either. it's just that i'm surprised that people are surprised by all of this. and in a free economy it is all about the dollars, look at almost any environmental issue and you'll see it's the globe vs the cash. from oil to global warming. morally, it's not even a question what we should do, but why do you think almost nothing has been done?

until this paradigm changes then this world will go to shit, and we'll be the main contributer.

maybe i was a little harsh about moving to n korea or cuba, but lip service does no good with all of this. like phil says all the time, it's time for another tea party.

philosopher · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:

Good call on Capus. From this point of view, he has all the morality of an alley cat. And the paradigm does need to shift for survival's sake. But Shocked

the paradigm will go where the dollars go. The freaky-eyed liberals of the 60's said it best, a good planet is really hard to find. We've done a royal job of screwing this one up.

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philosopher · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject:

Shame on me. Alley cats don't know right from wrong. They are amoral. Capus does have knowledge. This makes him a prostitute for the dollar. Absolutely immoral.

lane one · Junior Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 674

My perspective is that the coorporations are always going to follow the dollar. Imus was going to keep his job as long as he made his company money. The networks will say they are supporting freedom of speech when that makes them money. They will say they are applying their standards when that better serves their purposes. Thats what I expect them to do.

Its up to citizens to make a fuss when people act unacceptably. The fuss was big enough that sponsors took notice. When the sponsors took notice, the coorporation took notice. Thats why its important to have an educated, thoughtful population. Our society depends on it.

In my opinion, thats roughly how our society is supposed to work. The tuning is pretty coarse, but on average things work out. I think this all will lead to some discussions that should have been had a while ago.