Game 14, 2013-14: Saint Joseph's

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Post by NilesGold » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:06 am

Refuse2Lose83 wrote:Samp is pressing some, one thing you do have to say about him is he doesn't let his poor offense affect his defense. Hes been very consistent defensively and on the boards.
You mean consistently unimpressive? His defense and especially his rebounding have never been good. The guy does hustle, he's a good ball-handler for his size, he's a good free throw shooter and when his feet are set he was a good shooter early in the season. Unfortunately he's been a liability of late. I don't think that will change unless he starts to hit his outside shots, because he simply doesn't have the speed or athleticism to get to the rim and finish in traffic.

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Post by eldonabe » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:11 am

A win is a win. I'll take it. Obviously they have some issues to work on, but in listenting to the coach's show Monday night, these do not seem to be lost on DK. He seems to be more than aware of the current warts; he just hasn't figured out how to fix them yet?

There is not one correct answer to all of this, but at least he is not afraid to pull someone if they are off, or fading - like he did with Put last night. As long as they do not have foul trouble they are deep enough to spell the cold hand and the bottom line is that it is still working.

As for Maxie starting - I could care less. I think he his the exact right guy to come off the bench. Of more importance is that he is on the floor at the end of the game (which he is). Your starting 5 don't win your games, your finishing 5 do....



Thank god for Phil Martelli though. How the fuck do you not run Galloway through 50 screens if necessary get get him the ball? Jezus H.. Chaz is spotting the guy 6 or 7 inches at least - even just throw the fucking ball high over his head! Galloway has to have the ball in his hands during those final possessions and i don't think he even touched the ball once....????

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Post by LS71 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:11 am

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xlgman wrote:I've been as concerned as anyone about our drop in play lately but if you can't feel happy about that win and focus on the positive after a game like that, then you've lost all perspective.

13-1 against a top 10 schedule. Our 9th top 100 win, which is the most in the country. An AP ranking of #19. Clutch end of game heroics from some really entertaining players.

Guys, wake up and smell the roses and stop pissing in my champagne.
Too late to share anything that hasn't been said. I'll just highlight the post that best represents my feelings. Spot on, as usual, XLGMan. Go UMass!

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Part of this alleged drop in play is due to teams making adjustments to UMass. Fourteen games into the season...there's losts of tape for opposing coaches to watch. Now it's UMass' turn to adjust to those adjustments. In the meantime...they keep winning.

Nothing wrong with that!

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Post by Refuse2Lose83 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:12 am

He's averaging 5 boards a game, which is about what he should be. And I don't recall any games where he's been a defensive liability. I believe he was on Roberts yesterday and Roberts only had 4 point in 22 minutes before he went down. Was averaging 15 a game.
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Post by Chris20 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:33 am

I agree that teams see what we do and adjust, but that happens during games early in the season. I think a bigger issue is the fact that we are a ranked team getting attention. We are getting everyone's best right now. I have only watched one other SJU game and half of another, but I'd wager that was one of their better efforts last night. It certainly was much better than what I've seen.

Not an excuse, we need to elevate our play to deal with it. We haven't yet. Luckily, we've been good enough to win despite that.

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Post by UMASS2010 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:34 am

A few observations from that game:

1. Although it wasn't the prettiest game, a win is a win is a win is a win especially against a solid A10 team, who I think has under-performed up until this point.

2. Cady needs to do a better job of learning when to jump to block a shot and when to plant his feet. At least 2 of his fouls occurred when he jumped to get in the way of a shot, yet had absolutely no chance of getting a block or even stopping the attack to the hoop

3. Still would like to see Cady move his feet more in the post, however, every time he did get the ball in the post, the St Joes big men collapsed on him. Peter Boyle definitely focused on stopping him from taking over.

4. Nice to see Putney turn it up in the second half. He was a big part of this win.

5. I assume the rumblings of Esho starting are going to come up again. Although I certainly think Esho is playing better than Sampson, I think for now you keep Esho as the energy guy off the bench. He is the epitome of a sixth man/energy guy. A couple more poor performances out of Sampson, and maybe DK should stir the pot to light a fire under his ass, but for now I would keep it the way it is.

6. I thought DG played one of his best games of the season (partially thanks to a no call by the refs on the double dribble/travel that set up Trey for his 3). He was asleep on that inbound play to Bembry, and missed an easy teardrop from the baseline, but overall played well. His shot with about 2.5 minutes left was huge, his pass to Putney on the inbound was great, and the little drop pass to Esho was BEAUTIFUL.

7. Lastly. I'm scared to see what Bembry turns into. After seeing him play in just this game, he looks like a kid who could be an A10 POY by the time he graduates. He is well built for a freshman, and attacks the hoop better than anyone we have seen this year.

13-1!

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Post by Kickdrum » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:36 am

How are we not talking more about Chaz's "F-you moment"? After the non-foul turnover where he was hobbling around, he gave the ref a cold stare, then drilled a three.

That set up his ridiculous defensive intensity, which was followed by the 3 point attempt while being fouled.
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Post by Chris20 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:38 am

Because as usual, we take Chaz for granted. We are so used to him making huge plays that we don't even discuss it anymore.

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Post by Swampy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:40 am

Not bad considering they got nothing from Lalanne and Put started the game on one of his shitty bombs away no basket runs. About the only thing that really worried me was getting outrebounded by the Hawks.

Trey Davis was very good at the end and, Chazzy aside, Maxie is obviously the one guy this team can't afford to lose this season if they're going anywhere special.

Kanacevic has lost about 20lbs and is finally playing like everyone said he could play when he got to Hofstra. He had a career night and it's one of the reasons the game was as close as it was last night. That and Gallowaty not missing until it counted. Fuck St. Joes!

Btw, there was talk around here about UMass players wearing down. Well, three of their starters played the whole game and Roberts probably would have too if he didn't take that nasty fall. I guess HOF old chrome dome Martelli isn't as concerned about his highly trained athletes not being able to compete if they play too many minutes? With time outs and TV time outs coaches don't have to worry too much about resting their players, imo.

Biggest question about last night was some people wondering whether "Pantload" Penders was hitting the flask during the game.

13-1 Bring on the Welders.

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Post by UMASS2010 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:47 am

Swampy wrote:
Biggest question about last night was some people wondering whether "Pantload" Penders was hitting the flask during the game.

13-1 Bring on the Welders.
I thought about calling Comcast to tell them my 6 year old niece was looking for work. I think she could have added more to the broadcast yesterday than that goonfuck.

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Post by NilesGold » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:57 am

Refuse2Lose83 wrote:He's averaging 5 boards a game, which is about what he should be. And I don't recall any games where he's been a defensive liability. I believe he was on Roberts yesterday and Roberts only had 4 point in 22 minutes before he went down. Was averaging 15 a game.
4.7 RPG in 28.9 MPG. He averages less rebounds per minute than Cady, TBerg, Esho and Putney. With our below average rebounding there are plenty of rebounds to be had, he's just not getting many.

Also I think Cady and TBerg were mostly guarding Roberts, Sampson/Esho/Putney were guarding Kanacevic a lot.

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Post by ScottieB » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:09 am

LS71 wrote:
For those of you who are looking for style points...the winter Olympics start next month. Watch figure skating.
I prefer freestyle skiing - especially aerials. Those guys (and ladies) are NUTS. Love the winter Olympics; hope it goes ok. :shock:

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Post by Swampy » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:12 am

Puffers_Porter wrote:I have to say, DG is playing really well.
Shaksrule04 wrote:DG is playing very well, great pass and read on that last hoop.
You guys need to sit down with my friend Kosty for a few beahs because last night he seemed to lose confidence in DG.

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Post by CarriageEstates22 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:15 am

Kickdrum wrote:How are we not talking more about Chaz's "F-you moment"? After the non-foul turnover where he was hobbling around, he gave the ref a cold stare, then drilled a three.

That set up his ridiculous defensive intensity, which was followed by the 3 point attempt while being fouled.
I love Chazz but there was some major league acting going on when he was grabbing his back. He initially threw up his hands and screamed at the ref, then when he didn't get the call he started hobbling around and grabbing his back to sell it. You would have thought he got shot. When they showed the replay it looked like there was minimal contact at best.

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Post by twisters tavern » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:17 am

That was a game that in previous seasons we would not have gotten back off the mat and won. That to me is a huge sign that this team is something special. Most teams and players go through lulls in their seasons. To think that we are 13-1 and some of us are complaining how we got to 13-1 is okay by me. We could be complaining that we are 1-13. :twisted:

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