WELL DONE BRUCE!!! BABC is the heart of the New England recruiting scene, and immediately has the connection with Papile, and Ford this year also had a guy from NYC, al beit through JUCO, and another couple from Florida. The comments about all his ties being in the midwest is complete BS. Jersey Red can help too!!DS Bruce Robertson wrote:
And has anyone mentioned Leo Papile during all this? Which college coach is he most closely associated with? Rick Pitino. Who did Ford play for? Rick Pitino. Who is pushing him for the job (allegedly)? Rick Pitino. Does anyone think it's going to be hard for Travis Ford to get a conversation with the head of the BABC? Rick Pitino. Wait, that's not the right answer. I mean... no.
the job is Ford's according to today's RonnieGram
And alot of Southerners *still* talk about the Civil War like it was yesterday. This threw me for a loop the very first time I bumped into it about 15 years ago. But it's happened enough since then to convince me it's widespread. The migration to warmer climes and cheaper labor might dilute it a bit, but it still seems very much alive. Maybe if Sherman burned down my hometown I might still remember it that way too, but I doubt it.I'd say there is more inherent mistrust of Northerners by Southerners than there is of Southerners by Northerners. We just think Southerns is dum.*
If you want a lively read and something pretty horrifying, check out "Confederates in the Attic" by Tony Horwitz. It more than substantiates what you've said here.bdance wrote:And alot of Southerners *still* talk about the Civil War like it was yesterday. This threw me for a loop the very first time I bumped into it about 15 years ago. But it's happened enough since then to convince me it's widespread. The migration to warmer climes and cheaper labor might dilute it a bit, but it still seems very much alive. Maybe if Sherman burned down my hometown I might still remember it, but I doubt it.I'd say there is more inherent mistrust of Northerners by Southerners than there is of Southerners by Northerners. We just think Southerns is dum.*
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Where are you from? Let's find out! I'll get the torches, you get the United States Army.bdance wrote:Maybe if Sherman burned down my hometown I might still remember it that way too, but I doubt it.
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Umass73 wrote:Ford's got my vote from all the links and info posted on this board. I would give the nod for Ford over Barbee and Moore because he has had success as a D1 head coach at EKU. However, we are fortunate to have 3 very strong candidates! Admin please make it happen, I want to start rebuilding the program now.
Alright, so you look at Ford and give him the spot over the assistant coaches we could hire. But what about Pearl? He seems to have more experience and success than Ford.
FWIW, the story of how Pearl badgered that kid into falsely claiming that U of I had offered him 80K and an SUV is pretty grim stuff. I know he's recanted and said something about going about it the wrong way, but it's enough to give you pause.Quinn wrote:Umass73 wrote:Ford's got my vote from all the links and info posted on this board. I would give the nod for Ford over Barbee and Moore because he has had success as a D1 head coach at EKU. However, we are fortunate to have 3 very strong candidates! Admin please make it happen, I want to start rebuilding the program now.
Alright, so you look at Ford and give him the spot over the assistant coaches we could hire. But what about Pearl? He seems to have more experience and success than Ford.
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I disagree.AGldFinch6 wrote:Do people really think it matters that much where the coach is from? A good coach can recruit, regardless of where he is from.
If Ford wants to recruit locally go right ahead, if he wants to get kids from the south, who cares, some of the best HS players now are from the deep south. It probably will not be too hard for Ford to pick up a phone and make sure local coaches and such know who he is and make connections.
Maybe Ford has taken some notes from Pitino's book. Since Pitino is a NYC guy whose last two college coaching jobs have been at Louisville and Kentucky. Yet he somehow finds a way to recruit succesfully even though he isn't from the south. I'm sure if you look around the college coaching scene there are many more examples of that.
A legend in Kentucky is also a popular figure in the south, reputable on a somewhat national level, but a virtual unknown in the northeast.
Pitino is on a whole other level. He was a northeast guy who had success and moved on to the NBA. Coaching in the NBA gives a regional coach something extra...the sparkle of the NBA in the eyes of recruits. Pitino could be in New Mexico and would have a national program.
gui98 wrote:bringing in a coach from the midwest just strengthens our chances to get kids from the midwest as well. Bring in an asst. from the northeast - expand the geographic talent pool base!
Hate to give props to Ronnie, but he hit the nail on the head with Waters at Rutgers. People like myself and I'm sure CRR are disappointed that Waters hasn't had more success. He's a great coach but can't recruit in the region.
Especially with all those empty seats in Dayton. More people showed up for the Alabama A&M vs Oakland NCAA play-in game then for the A10 Championship game.philosopher wrote:Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis... members of the Atlantic 10.gui98 wrote: Geography. awesome.
Then you look at the commissioner and oddly, it all makes some semblance of sense.
Not necessarily so, based on his connection to Pitino. That's the key that will open doors for Travis Ford across the country. Any coach or parent who is old enough to remember the early 90s (which I'm going to say will be most of them) will remember the great Kentucky teams under Pitino.Quinn wrote: I disagree.
A legend in Kentucky is also a popular figure in the south, reputable on a somewhat national level, but a virtual unknown in the northeast.
All Ford has to say is that he was the guy wearing number 5 playing floor general for Pitino at Kentucky and he's got a captive audience with any AAU coach or parent. The guy's got weight.
WOULD YOU WANT TO PLAY AT RUTGERS?????Quinn wrote:gui98 wrote:bringing in a coach from the midwest just strengthens our chances to get kids from the midwest as well. Bring in an asst. from the northeast - expand the geographic talent pool base!
Hate to give props to Ronnie, but he hit the nail on the head with Waters at Rutgers. People like myself and I'm sure CRR are disappointed that Waters hasn't had more success. He's a great coach but can't recruit in the region.
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Let's emphasize that point again. It was a mistake for Waters to take the Rutgers job. For all those that want to blame the fans for Lappas' lousy record - Rutgers student fans are some of the best. It doesn't ssem to help them win, though. The funny thing is, UMass and Rutgers had about equal attendance when Lappas and Waters were hired. Rutgers attendance went up and UMass attendance went down.gui98 wrote: ...
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