Re: McCall's 22-23 Buyout
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:49 am
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when Pitino took over for Iona they were not a better program...HE made them better and he'd do it here too. His salary is 1.1 million and at this point in his career he doesn't need to get paid 8 million a year...pretty sure he wouldn't come here but who thought he'd go to Iona. Make the guy an offer of 2 million and I guarantee he'll make you that money back in the 1st year.bmc24 wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:15 pm Pitino would be an instant smash. Maybe he’s old enough where it makes sense to make good. That said, Iona is probably a better program at the moment so it would need to be a good pitch. Confident in our AD?
I think you missed my point. I agree he has done a horrible job. I was responding to "Can we get a better coach?". I was implying that we could have gotten a better coach if we didn't panic and do a rush hire on MM when Kelsey backed out. There aren't many MM defenders out there any more.PreecherJenkins wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:29 am69, he has been here for five years, he got the job, they do not ask you why you got the job, they ask how you have done in the job, and MM has done a horrible job.69MG wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:47 pm ^ Don't forget that MM wasn't the first choice (maybe not in the top 10). He was an emergency hire when Kelsey backed out. It was getting late and maybe we jumped the gun instead of doing a more thorough search. MM got the job because Billy Donovan put in a good word for him.
69 is correct. The circumstances around McCall's hiring were unfortunate, but A) it doesn't absolve Bamford or McCall, and B) it's not a reflection of what caliber of coach UMass should be able to hire.69MG wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:23 am I think you missed my point. I agree he has done a horrible job. I was responding to "Can we get a better coach?". I was implying that we could have gotten a better coach if we didn't panic and do a rush hire on MM when Kelsey backed out. There aren't many MM defenders out there any more.
Fair... Not sure we hit the panic button with McCall. From Dear Leader Bamford March 2016. I know this is what he is supposed to say but still69MG wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:23 amI think you missed my point. I agree he has done a horrible job. I was responding to "Can we get a better coach?". I was implying that we could have gotten a better coach if we didn't panic and do a rush hire on MM when Kelsey backed out. There aren't many MM defenders out there any more.PreecherJenkins wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:29 am69, he has been here for five years, he got the job, they do not ask you why you got the job, they ask how you have done in the job, and MM has done a horrible job.69MG wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:47 pm ^ Don't forget that MM wasn't the first choice (maybe not in the top 10). He was an emergency hire when Kelsey backed out. It was getting late and maybe we jumped the gun instead of doing a more thorough search. MM got the job because Billy Donovan put in a good word for him.
Hate that we're talking about next year and beyond 2 games into the A10 season, but that's where we are. Expanding on Niles' point, we could hope Weeks and perhaps other players stay because of the school, and may be senior enough to only have 1 year eligible elsewhere, making them less attractive if they go to the portal. I think a big factor could be that players can now transfer once and be immediately eligible, but need a waiver if they transfer twice. A coaching change might get them a waiver, but waivers will supposedly become harder to get from now on. So players who came via transfer (Noah, CJ, Greg Jones, DIbaji if he wants to and can play another year), could be somewhat locked in.NilesGold wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:26 pm69 is correct. The circumstances around McCall's hiring were unfortunate, but A) it doesn't absolve Bamford or McCall, and B) it's not a reflection of what caliber of coach UMass should be able to hire.69MG wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:23 am I think you missed my point. I agree he has done a horrible job. I was responding to "Can we get a better coach?". I was implying that we could have gotten a better coach if we didn't panic and do a rush hire on MM when Kelsey backed out. There aren't many MM defenders out there any more.
Assuming UMass can offer up a yearly salary of at least $700k, that puts them well above the majority of other D1 programs. The facilities are still good, and the conference is still a step above other MM leagues (all of which are 1-bid leagues 99% of the time).
With the transfer portal, it should theoretically be far easier for good coaches to rebuild a program, and any new coach would have a good shot at retaining some of the talent that's likely here at least in part because of the school and not the coach (looking at Fernandes & Weeks in particular).
I did that looks like the full system number.
I don't know if I could ever look at Rick the way I do Cal but I'm sick of losing and trying to find the next Cal, so much I'd take Rick as HC.UMass'96 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:52 pm Would love to see us play Kentucky if that happened. What a turn of events that would be....
It is. As THE University of Massachusetts, the Amherst campus gets 40% of the total endowment (which was $368m in 2020). The medical school gets 25%, and the rest is split between the other 3 campuses and the president's office for system wide endeavors.
Are we sure that waivers exist anymore, at all?bobolink wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:30 pm I think a big factor could be that players can now transfer once and be immediately eligible, but need a waiver if they transfer twice. A coaching change might get them a waiver, but waivers will supposedly become harder to get from now on.